Papa cere stat palestinian, regele Iordaniei prevede un nou război în zonă

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#1 gandul.info 11.05.2009 21:50

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Ambele popoare (is­raelian şi palestinian – n.r.) să trăiască într-o patrie proprie, cu graniţe securizate şi recunoscute internaţional”, a cerut Papa Benedict al XVI-lea la sosirea în Israel.

 

#2 Iuliana. 11.05.2009 21:50

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amuzant, halpert are 70 de ani si este suprtavietuitor al holocaustului. parca batranii, copii si cei inapti de munca erau dusi direct la camerele de gazare. si peste 300 de ani vom avea supravietuitori al holocaustului. chiar ne credeti ******* ?

 

#3 valeria 11.05.2009 22:33

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hai sa fim seriosi... isra-hell-ienii, care mereu actioneaza doar in interes propriu, sfidand pe toata lumea, nu sunt interesati de palestinieni si cu atat mai putin de infiintarea statului palestinian, ii doare fix in cot, asta stie toata lumea, o stie si papa, dar ce poate face, in calitate de papa, decat sa indemne la pace si intelegere intre popoare, bla, bla. cat despre previziunile regelui iordaniei, este clar ca izbucnirea unui nou conflict in orient este foarte probabila, avand in vedere incercarile micului stat terorist si f.i.c.t.i.v (ca doar nu degeaba s-a ferit papa sa-l numeasca "stat") dar tupeist, de a-si impuna politica agresiva si discriminatoare, cu orice pret.

 

#4 mossadu'@calache 11.05.2009 22:37

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bey vierme ji.danesc,nu cumva si tu esti un supravietuitor al holo-hoax-ului,bora-ti-ai pu.la-n m.a-ta.ia mai baga niste textein english,baga-ti-ai pu.la-n rassa m.a-tii de viermi degenerati.

 

#5 Ignacio 11.05.2009 22:40

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du-te halpert sau haplea sau cum naiba te-o fi chemand, nu ai tu rat sa te pronunti, cacaciosule si perciunatule despre vizita sanctitatii sale...fa mai bine un dus.

 

#6 calache 11.05.2009 22:41

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mananc ca.cat,su.g pu.la mossadului,iar iulianei si valeriei,le trag limbi in cu.r si-n pi.zda.am zis!

 

#7 SA CRAPE IUDA ! 11.05.2009 23:52

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iata ce spunea adolf hitler in mein kampf : " atunci cand sionismul cauta sa faca restul lumii sa creada ca la evrei constiinta nationala si-ar gasi satisfactia in crearea unui stat palestinian, evreii ii inseala inca o data pe goimii prosti la modul cel mai patentat. ei nu au catusi de putin intentia sa instituie in palestina un stat evreiesc pentru a se statornici acolo; ei urmaresc numai sa stabileasca acolo organaizatia centrala a inteprinderii lor sarlatanesti de internationalism universal; ea ar fi astfel inzestrata cu drepturi de suveranitate si sustrasa interventiei altor state; ar fi un azil pentru toti ticalosii demascati si o scoala superioara pentru viitorii mascarici"

 

#8 SA CRAPE IUDA ! 11.05.2009 23:53

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continuare>>&g t;>> "in acelasi timp evreul are aerul personal, ca el este insetat de cunostinte, face elogiul tuturor progresul, in special al celor care provoaca ruina altora; toate cunostintele dobandite la scolile altora ,le foloseste numai in slujba rasei sale. dar el vegheaza la pastrarea nationalitatii sale. parand ca debordeaza de "cunostinte" , de "progres", de :libertate", de "omenie", el are grija sa pastraze particularismul strict al rasei sale. i se intampla sa-si agate femeile de niste crestini influenti, dar principiul lui este pastrarea mereu pura, a urmasilor sai de sex masculin. el otraveste sangele altora ,dar il protejeaza pe-al sau de orice schimbare. evreul nu se casatoreste niciodata cu o crestina, in schimb crestinul ia in casatorie o evreica. dar la produsul acestei incrucisari de rase, elementul evreiesc iese biruitor. indeosebi o parte a nobilimii este complet degenerata. evreul o stie foarte bine si practica sistematic aceasta "dezarmare" ; a clasei conducatorilor spirituali, ai adversarilor rasei sale. pentru a-si ascunde masinatiile si a-si adormi victimele, el nu inceataza de a vorbi despre egalitate intre toti oamenii,fara consideratii de rasa ori culoare. imbecilii incep sa se lase convinsi."

 

#9 SA CRAPE IUDA ! 11.05.2009 23:53

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continuare >>>>"timp de mai bine de o mie de ani evreul a invatat sa stapaneasca atat de bine limba poporului care i-a oferit ospitalitate, incat el crede acum ca poate risca sa puna mai putin accent pe originea sa evreiasca si sa faca sa treca pe primul plan- "calitatea de german". atunci ia nastere una din cele mai infame inselatorii din cate se pot imagina. cum el nu poseda nimic german, ci doar arta de a stalci limba.ori-nu limba face rasa, ci sangele, iar evreul o stie mai bine ca oricine,din moment ce acorda putina importanta pastrarii limbii sale, si, in schimb acorda foarte mare importanta mentinerii puritatii sangelui sau. un om poate schimba limba foarte usor,adica se poate folosi de alta;numai ca atunci va exprima in noua sa limba, ideile sale vechi.natura lui intima nu se va schimba. aceasta dovedeste ca evreul care poate vorbi o mie de limbi diferite,nu este totusi decat evreu."

 

#10 SA CRAPE IUDA ! 12.05.2009 05:45

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history of the jews in bukovina
(1919 – 1944)
by dr. manfred reifer s.a. (tel aviv)
translated by jerome silverbush
at the end of september, 1918, under the pressure of the events of the war, the future of the monarchy was discussed in the vienna parliament, counsels were being held by jewish parties in vienna, galicia and bukovina concerning the position they should take about the threatened fall of the monarchy. the chief topic of discussion was the obtaining of political representation in the separate countries.
already at the end of 1917, in jewish leadership circles, the question had been raised of calling a jewish-austrian congress similar to the jewish-american congress held at the beginning of 1917, at which the request of the jewish people to the vienna government dealing mainly with the question of national autonomy should be discussed and corresponding decisions should be made.

at the head of the initiators, stood the respected zionists adolf stand and robert stricker, the parliament members, dr. benno straucher (for bukovina) and heinrich reizes (for galicia) and moreover, representatives of the austrian countries with a sizable jewish population.

it soon became obvious, that the austrian jews, partly because of opposing business interests and partly because of resistance to jewish nationalism, to which the zionist oriented jews of galicia and bukovina were dedicated, couldn't come to a unified decision. vienna turned the balance.

because of the negative position of the vienna community1, and their president, dr. adolf stern a congress was not called but the zionist organizations never gave up trying to make the congress a reality.

in september 1918, a zionist party convention took place in lemberg at which in the name of the jews of bukovina, dr. martin kraemer introduced the following resolution with four demands:

the party convention views in the granting of national cultural autonomy in austria, the only way to remove the friction between the individual peoples of the monarchy and in this way to bring about a positive solution to the political crisis.

in connection with this, the following points should be included in the future constitution.

a) constitutional recognition of the jewish nationality as a body subject to public law with all rights of national autonomy.
b) all citizens born as jews belong to the autonomous jewish nationality as long as they do not separate themselves from it.
c) in addition to religious affairs, education, social services and business activity belong to the areas of activity of the jewish community.
d) if in the framework of the monarchy, new states are created, jews in these states should enjoy full political, civil and national equality as well as national cultural autonomy.
this resolution was greeted by all the zionist state organizations in austria, bukovina included and adopted as the basis for their future demands.

dr. jakob pistiner wrote in the name of the jewish social democrat party (bund) the guiding principals for the creating of the jewish nation as an equal member in the brotherhood of nations. dr. myer ebener developed the political program of the jewish state party and the zionistic state party and dr. meier rosner created the theses for poale zion. all agreed after a comprehensive discussion on a common platform and published a manifest written by the leaders of the four organizations.

the framework of the old monarchy started to tremble. kaiser karl's manifest of october 22, 1918, through which the monarchy was to be changed into a federation of states spelled the death knell of the several century old monarchy.

the national councils adopted for the separate states in the sprit of the manifesto proclaimed the independence of these states as nation-states.

in bukovina, the conditions were different than in bohemia, moravia, hungary, and croatia. this eastern province of the monarchy was inhabited by five nationalities of which the ruthinians and the romanians demanded national sovereignty for themselves. there was the threat of armed conflict between the romanians and the ruthinians when the ukrainian national council in lemberg in november, 1918, declared that bukovina would be an integral part of the future west ukrainian republic.

a jewish self defense had to be created which would ensure the protection of jewish life and property. this was accomplished at the initiative of the czernowitz chief doctor, dr. ferdinand sternlieb on october, 1918 and this organization maintained close contact with the leaders of the jewish national council.

the ukrainian (ruthinian) national council under leadership of the school inspector emilian popowicz called for a national assembly in czernowitz on november 5, 1918 to which approximately 5,000 participants, mostly farmers were invited. the jewish self defense made all preparations to forestall any excesses or plundering that would endanger the jews.

but already on november 4, 1918, the last act in the fall of the austro-hungarian empire took place, an event which presented the jewish national council with new and serious problems. an anarchic situation began that lasted eight days. soldiers left their barracks and plundered the military depots. it was the jewish self defense which prevented these degenerate soldiers from attacking the jewish quarter and forced them to gradual withdraw from the city. on november 5, 1918 in the early morning hours, masses of ukrainian farmers from the surrounding villages began streaming toward czernowitz. around midday, they occupied the central squares and streets. the ukrainian national assembly left quietly. at the request of these “constituents” the regierunggeschaefte took over the ukrainian national council after the last austrian state president, graf josef ezdorf resigned from his office. also, all public offices were taken over by the ukrainians.

the new chief executive, emilian popowicz und the new mayor bespalko (a ukrainian social democrat) were informed by the jewish self defense during the conference of the national council that eventually, there was going to be an attack with weapons against the jewish population. this warning didn't fail to have its effect on the ukrainian leaders. they told the farmers to observe the great hour in a dignified manner and to leave the city in peace and order.

the ukrainian national council was not up to the tasks of running the government. it also did not have the military power to enforce its laws and decrees. everywhere the feeling of uncertainty reigned, especially at night. the rabble in the suburbs had weapons and shooting was heard everywhere. the jewish self defense proved its worth in those difficult days. thanks to that organization, the czernowitz jewish population was protected against rape and pillage.

meanwhile, the leaders of the jewish national council formed at the october 22, 1918 meeting decided at their meeting of november 10, 1918 to take over the jewish communities of the land and to turn them into jewish peoples communities2

under romanian rule
on november 11, 1918, the viii romanian division under general jacob zadik crossed the border of bukovina, occupied suceava and started marching toward czernowitz. general panic seized the ukrainian leaders. they contacted romanian politicians and were ready to concede the southern part of the land with a mainly romanian population to the romanians and to combine north bukovina as ukrainian territory with the east galician ukraine. the negotiations failed, however. the ukrainian national council sent a delegation to general zadik's headquarters to lodge a complaint against the occupation of ukrainian territory between the sereth and the dniester rivers. nothing was achieved by the ukrainian delegation. the romanian troops occupied all of bukovina and thereby placed the upcoming negotiations during the peace conference before a “res judicata.” the romanian king ferdinand named dr. jancu flondor, a romanian politician from bukovina as chief of the regime. flondor appointed a provisional cabinet for bukovina with its seat in czernowitz. a manifesto to the people of bukovina announced the uniting of bukovina with the kingdom of romania. a state of martial rule was declared throughout bukovina. in spite of this, in spite of this, the jews were subject to attacks and plundering.
the jews of bukovina were stunned. they had seen better days and couldn't reconcile themselves to the new conditions. they thought on past days when they enjoyed full rights as citizens while in romania, at best they would be “second class citizens” of the “ruling nation” – a concept that was unknown in austria. they had fought step by step for their political position and were the most grateful and best austrian citizens, while the romanian population saw their political goals beyond the border and some of the ruthenians were panslavists. because of their patriotism, they bore patiently all the hardships the war had brought, since they had hoped for austria's victory. the romanian occupation of the land which threatened their future like a specter brought still unsuspected dangers with it.

dr. jancu flondor, the president of the new bukovina government, called a meeting of the congress of bukovina nationalities for november 28, 1918 which was to finalize the unconditional annexation of bukovina by romania. he also conferred with the jewish national council which was the third largest national group in the land. on november 26, 1918, the jewish national council met in order to formulate its position for the upcoming congress. all the jewish politicians who took part in this conference of the national council were aware of the gravity of the situation and decided after long debate to stay away from the congress and to maintain a neutral position. this decision which was passed with a small majority was influenced by the fact that the bukovina jews had no political or economic rights. the two presidents of the national council, dr. mayer ebner and dr. jakob pistiner, about midnight of the 26th to the 27th of november, 1918 mailed the decision of the jewish national council, that they would not take part in the congress to the leader of the government. this position of the bukovina jews was caused by the fact that the government leader dr. jancu flondor demanded unconditional annexation and was not willing in the proclamation to be issued by the bukovina congress to make a declaration of the full enfranchisement of the jews and of their national autonomy as well as proclaiming equality for the jews of “old romania.” only the representatives of the german and polish minorities came to the congress of bukovina nationalities which approved the unconditional annexation of bukovina to romania.

because of the manifesto of the copenhagen zionistic office, published on october 25, 1918, in which the demands of the jewish people for a national jewish home in eretz3 israel and full enfranchisement including national autonomy in the galuth4 lands with large jewish settlements were laid out, the zionist world organization began preparations for jewish representation in the peace conference which was to take place in paris. leo motzkin was entrusted with the organizing.

meanwhile, the jewish national council delegations from germany-austria, east galicia, west galicia, czechoslovakia bukovina, transylvania, poland, russia, ukraine, lithuania, italy, romania, bessarabia and eretz israel at the initiative of motzkin had traveled to bern where a pre-conference had taken place and from there to paris (the austrian delegation couldn't get a visa from paris).

the bukovina jewish national council delegated dr. benno straucher, dr. max diamant and dr. markus kraemerr. straucher, however didn't go along and remained in vienna.

starting january 18, 1919 the zionists sokolow and motzkin as well as the americans, judge mack and louis marshal negotiated with the representatives of the english delegation, lucien wolff and montefiore and the president of the israelite alliance, eugen sue in order to create a unified jewish peace delegation.

the negotiations failed because the alliance and the english delegation didn't want to accept the national demands of the jewish national council.

the representatives of the american-jewish committee and the middle and east european national councils organized themselves on march 23, 1919 as the “comite des delegations privees aupres la conference de la paiz,” under the presidium of julian m. mack, louis marshal, nahum sokolow, leon reich, israel rosoff, menachem usischkin with leo motzkin as secretary general.

the bukovina delegation was a member of the committee and took an active part in its work.

on may 10, 1919 the committee presented a comprehensive document with the demands of the jewish delegation to the peace conference.

 

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